• STV
  • MySTV

Scottish Labour leadership contenders hit out at Dugdale

Both candidates say the former party leader was not strong enough on the union.

Scottish Labour under former leader Kezia Dugdale was not strongly enough in favour of the union, the two candidates vying to replace her have said.

Both Richard Leonard and Anas Sarwar said the party under Dugdale's leadership had been "ambiguous" and "not firm enough" in its support of the UK and opposition to Scottish independence.

Sarwar also sought to distance himself from his involvement in the cross-party Better Together campaign during the 2014 referendum, instead saying he led the "distinct Labour campaign".

Numerous images show he did campaign for the official Better Together organisation.

The two men were speaking at a special televised hustings broadcast on STV's Scotland Tonight programme on Wednesday.

Before the 2016 European Union referendum, Dugdale said it would not be "inconceivable" for her to support Scottish independence if the UK voted to leave.

She later sought to clarify her stance, vowing to "never support" independence earlier this year.

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1381606-dugdale-vows-to-defeat-snp-if-scotland-faces-indyref2/ | default

UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn also had his position on the constitution questioned when he said in May he would not block a second independence referendum if "the Scottish people want it".

He had previously said he would be "fine" with a fresh poll on the question of independence.

Despite winning seven seats in Scotland in June's general election, the party came third behind the Conservatives for a second time after being beaten by Ruth Davidson's party in the Holyrood elections the previous year.

The Scottish Conservatives ran in both elections with a prominent message of opposing a second independence referendum.

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1389924-jeremy-corbyn-would-not-block-indyref2-if-scots-want-it/ | default

Responding to a question asking how the party can win back lost Conservative voters, Leonard said: "In part it's about being firmer on the constitutional question, in a way that I think we were not, and I think we've got an opportunity to repair some of that damage."

The Central Scotland MSP added: "It's also about reaching out to people not as consumers but as citizens. It's about getting across the argument that poverty and inequality diminishes us all.

"So I think we can build a coalition of people in those Conservative-held seats, or in seats where the Tories have made gains, by being clearer on our position on our position on the Scottish constitution and secondly by reaching out to those progressives in those seats to build a coalition around that."

The left-wing candidate was challenged by a member of the audience on his vote in support of triggering Article 50 to begin the process of Brexit along with the Conservatives.

Leonard denied he supported a "hard Tory Brexit" and said he was "absolutely in line on where the Labour party is" on the issue of leaving the EU, adding the democratic vote to leave must be respected.

'Comments were made that allowed people to say that somehow we were weak on the United Kingdom.'
Scottish Labour leadership candidate Anas Sarwar

On the question of Labour's stance on independence, Sarwar said: "We were ambiguous on the constitutional question.

"I don't think we can ever go into an election campaign not having an answer being clear on the constitution."

Pressed by STV's Colin Mackay on if this was really the case, the Glasgow MSP said: "I think comments were made that allowed people to say that somehow we were weak on the United Kingdom."

He clarified: "Kezia Dugdale made those comments. We all know what those comments are."

Asked if Corbyn had also made such comments, Sarwar responded: "Jeremy Corbyn alluded to comments that I think were not helpful but I think some of it was taken out of context, to be frank.

"But the point I'd make is this - everyone knows where I stood in that referendum campaign.

"I led the distinct Labour campaign and I made very clear: Under my leadership, I will never, ever support independence or a second independence referendum."

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1398660-scottish-labour-msps-clash-over-leadership-contest/ | default

Sarwar was then asked if he worked alongside the Conservatives as part of Better Together, when Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats teamed up to campaign for a No vote in 2014.

He replied: "No," adding: "I did television debates where there were representatives of all political parties in that debate."

Sarwar served as deputy leader of Scottish Labour between 2011 and 2014 and appeared in a number of debates during the referendum.

Hs apparent denial of campaigning alongside the Conservatives in the official Better Together campaign is at odds with several images taken on the campaign trail.

Two separate photos show Sarwar and Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson posing for photographs at the same Better Together stall in Glasgow in August 2012, shortly after the campaign group was formed and two years before the referendum.

On Thursday, a spokesman for Sarwar said: "Anas ran the distinct United With Labour campaign during the referendum, which was separate to Better Together.

"He toured the country, travelling over 11,000 miles and making over 300 stops. He also produced Labour's positive alternative to independence, the 'red book' Together We Can.

"Only if he is leader will there never again be any doubt any Scottish Labour's opposition to independence."

Ruth Davidson: Part of cross-party Better Together alliance.
Ruth Davidson: Part of cross-party Better Together alliance.

Download: The STV News app is Scotland's favourite and is available for iPhone from the App store and for Android from Google Play. Download it today and continue to enjoy STV News wherever you are.

One account. All of STV.

This field is required. That doesn't look like a valid e-mail format, please check. That e-mail's already in our system. Please try again.
ShowHide
Forgot password?
This field is required. At least 6 characters please. Did you enter your details correctly?
If you've forgotten your details then use the 'Forgot password?' link.
Need to reset your password?

We'll send a link to reset your password to

We've sent you details on how to reset your password

Please check your email and follow the instructions.

Forgotten your email address?

Have you forgotten the email address that you previously joined with? Don't worry, by emailing enquiries@stv.tv we can help.

One account. All of STV.

This field is required. Please enter at least 2 characters
This field is required. Please enter at least 2 characters
At least 6 characters please
ShowHide
This field is required. At least 6 characters please.
You have to be 16 or over to join
This field is required. This doesn't appear to be a valid date
Type your full postcode and select your address This field is required. It doesn't look like you've entered a valid postcode. Can't find your address? Confirm the details you've given us are correct by clicking here

By continuing you agree to our Terms of Use, including our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy. Any issues contact us.

Upload Profile Picture

Please make sure your image is under 2mb in size and a valid JPG, PNG or GIF.

Are you sure?

Unfortunately, you'll be unable to access our premium content. We’ll be sorry to see you go, but if you change your mind you can rejoin us at any time.

Please verify your STV account

Please verify your STV account using the email we sent you. If you have lost the email, we can send you another one, just click the button below.

Thanks

We've sent you a new verification email.
Please check your email and follow the instructions to verify your account.

Welcome to STV
Thanks for joining us.

Oops!

Sorry, you must be at least 12 years old to place a vote for your Real Hero.

Please review our Voting Terms of Use for more information.

Oops!

Sorry! It seems that you are using a browser that is incompatible with our voting service.

To register your vote please copy the below URL in to your regular mobile browser. We recommend Google Chrome, or Safari.

http://shows.stv.tv/real-heroes/voting

Oops!

Sorry, you seem to have already voted in this category.

Thanks for voting

Now share your vote with friends on your social network

Share on twitter Share on facebook

Cast your vote

Please register or sign in to continue.

Cast your vote

This field is required. This doesn't appear to be a valid date

Cast your vote

Please fill out this form to cast your vote. As you are under 16 years old you will not create an STV account. Why do we need these details?

This field is required. Please enter at least 2 characters
This field is required. Please enter at least 2 characters
This field is required. That doesn't look like a valid e-mail format, please check.
Location This field is required.
Parental Consent This field is required.

That's you. All that's left is to click the 'Submit Vote' button below. By doing so, you confirm that you and your parent or guardian have read and accept our Voting Terms of Use, Privacy Policy and Cookie policy, and that the details you have entered are correct. We'll look after them as carefully as if they were our own.